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| do you think it's possible some humans can have caspecial abilities. which can with stain strength, fire and such.. |
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| Well, I have theories on this; I know it's pretty possible in theory to move objects using natural magnetic energy which is constantly being emitted from your body; I know people can see auric fields around bodies(I can myself); I know you can send energy into someone, and make it cause pain without touching them(have done so myself); as for fire? I'm not sure on that one, that's creating elements your body doesn't have, but then it has water, you can create water xD. | ||||||
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| I can't say I can vouch for Hx10 because that just sounds weird. There are people who claim they can detect UFO's with their bodies. I am not saying they are lying, but maybe they just believe it so much they actually feel that way. It is known as the placebo effect. Evangelical priests use the placebo effect to heal (often temporarily) their attendants. People who cannot walk can sometimes stand up and running if they convince themselves into it. I would classify that as "human powers". |
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Actually, they have both been proved to exist  |
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| - 24 January, 2007 | ||||||
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| Like this? From http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/14/news/pain.php: Geneticists following up on the case of a 10-year-old Pakistani boy who could walk on coals without discomfort have discovered a gene that is central to the perception of pain. A mutation in the gene knocks out all perception of injury, raising hopes of developing novel drugs that would abolish pain by blocking the gene's function. The boy lived in Lahore and was well known to the medical authorities in the city because he would come to the clinic asking to be patched up after his street performances. To earn money he would pass knives through his arms and walk on burning coals without feeling pain. ... |
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| Hx10, no offense, but if you are going to say that magic and kinetic powers are real, show us some peer reviewed reproducible proof! There is a reason why on a geek site science has a little precedent! | ||||||
| - 24 January, 2007 | ||||||
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| I would seriously doubt any such thing could exist. Human society tends to place extraordinary individuals on a pedestal of fame. If humanity had individuals who had powers they would be treated like rock stars and celebrities, everyone would know their names, people would have baseball cards of their likeness. People don't keep secrets half as well as we like to think we do. If they existed we would know and they would be treated like gods to a portion of the people. Jesus walked on water and look how people came to him, if someone could spout flames from their hands just think how they'd be treated.. | ||||||
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| If this sort of thing actually existed, then surely someone would have won the Million Dollar Challenge by now. Surprising how they either refuse to try, or fail the preliminary tests... | ||||||
| - 24 January, 2007 | ||||||
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| Ummm.... Hx10. You don't have the special power to hear "voices" do you. No jk. But Jawad's right about the Placebo thing. Try the pain thing on someone who either doesn't notice you or hasn't been told what your doing and it won't work. And the aura is called willing suspension of disbelief. Both are well-documented cases, in fact I have personally experienced willing suspension of disbelief (Movie Producers use it all the time). The magnetic fields surrounding people would only be visible in a wavelength much higher then human eyes are capable of detecting. Also, moving things with your magnetic field. That would be inefficient way of moving things, meaning that it would require a huge amount of energy to do so, with almost no way to actually control the magnetic field (no muscles that can do it and no nerves that lead anywhere to do that so the brain can't send signals) | ||||||
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| And in case you mean auras as seen using Kirlian photography, that's the result of a cool phenomenon known as a coronal discharge. | ||||||
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| Hmm...reminds me of Heroes! Lol. | ||||||
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| Y'know thats what I was thinking. Karma++ for you | ||||||
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| i use to think that maybe the reasoin we do what we do is because of other people like are brains do communicate with each other with us knowing thats why sometimes we do say or do the same thing when with a mate or something like you have said the same word at the same time lol. it seems to happen all the time to me. and becuase of this we get more intelligent as the population gets bigger. lol just what i use to think |
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| Though its an interesting observation, I think that the reason two people say the same thing at the same time is because they know each other very well because they've spent so much time with them. And the intelligence thing, well, generally, if the population is higher it means that things are going well and there havn't been any disasters recently or otherwise the population would be smaller, and because of this more time, energy, and manpower ca be devoted to research. | ||||||
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| I think that effect is also due to the fact that different people can pick up on the same cues unconsciously. My sister and I often wound up humming the same song at virtually the same instant, even though neither of us could tell what set it off. |
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| perhaps in some cultures there's a belief of super humans which can perform certain tasks. which we may not have an understanding to.. I think there's a couple of people out there whom possess the power moving objects, etc also read minds and use their energy to help heal others and also guide the rest of us in life. remember edgar cayce? prophet the man whom had the gift to see things most of us do not see. and also nostrodamas. P.s. it's quite possible for a human to bonic in someways. And Hero s |
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| HERO TV SHOW.. Has me hooked on this idea. amongst reading within the subject matter at the library. | ||||||
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hx10 says |
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| Science has always had the problem of ignoring anything they can't prove. Just because science can't prove something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There is no placebo effect... Aren't bats out of the human wavelength, I can hear them too; Though I feel the vibrations on my neck aswell. Well, people can believe what they want tbh, but I know what I see, and do isn't fake. I don't see auras constant, only when I refocus my eyes. I learned how to do it, it isn't a naturally developed phenomenon.. you remember them old 3D puzzle things? where you refocus your eyes, that's how I managed to re-tune my eyes.. Honestly try it and you'll see the same.. it's nothing as amazing as science makes out.. just they "Can't Prove Everything". | ||||||
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| Hx10, Science can not prove anything to be straight with you, all they can do is be pretty godamn sure, there is no 100%. Now onto supernatural powers: dude, show us. Just because science currently cannot prove something does not mean it doesn't exist, but if you can't reproduce an effect why should we believe you at all? People have told me they have seen aura's, a lot of people, and usually I dismiss that, but if someone could say, see an aura through a wall, and correctly tell me where a person was behind that wall without any audio clues or anything (double blind test) it would give at least some credence to something I can't see or believe at this point. If you want to be thought of as legitimate and not a crackpot you have to give us something to gnaw on. |
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| Nah, I can't see auras thru walls lol. But how would I go about proving I can see something? Without inserting some kind of chip into my brain and turning myself into a cyborg?.. lol | ||||||
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| I am sorry man, I have no idea. | ||||||
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| Maybe you could try predicting someone's mood based on the color of their aura, or something. |
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| Nadeem that is a good idea except for the fact that people are built to understand moods through very subtle body language, and you really dont have any guarantee that you are just not interpreting it. | ||||||
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| Well then, if he can't see auras through walls, and we can't come up with any test that will show that he really is doing something other than fooling himself(no offense, Hx10) or screwing with his eyes, then we're hardly obligated to believe that he really is seeing auras. | ||||||
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And that is why it is so hard to do anything scientific with them  |
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| I'm not offended, but if you're that interested go study them and try and see them yourself, not whining on shuzak |
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No offense, but it seems to me, that instead of doing anything to try to prove this you're just whining about it on shuzak  . Either way, the burden of proof here is on you, not us. He's not trying to disprove this because there is no evidence for him to refute. The burden of proof here is on you. |
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| Well said, RyeGye. After all, extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence, and the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. | ||||||
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| I often write in my own form of linguistics, so try and comprehend the best that you can.. What is this light I perceive, multiple in contrast; Ever changing to the state of mind of the host. A light many are skeptical towards, how dull their views on this subject. They call it placebo, if placebo's definition is something the skeptical can not comtemplate then yes I agree, but unforunately that is not so. They struggle to explain, or prove the existance of this light, they say it is out of the range of homosapien's visionary wave-length; I say they aren't looking hard enough. What could I possibly do to edit their views on the subject? My answer being nothing. The only plausible thing I could do is theorize the existance and try to bring fourth the encouragement to explain this mystery for others to grasp. Due to my earlier enumeration of this light, also known as auras I've found no full-proof explaination only other theories, which do not touch my satisfaction, thus I've created my own theory. According to physics, everyone and everything on this planet requires electricity to power, muscles etc. Also physics tells us that power is wasteful, you drive a car and you're only using around 20% of the power, the other goes into heating the road and tires and wearing away components of your vehicle. Now, what's stopping the electricity we consume, be wasted in the form of power, therefore expanding out of our bodies in the form of electromagnetism. Now this electromagnetism could change in colour due to the amount of power our body is using due to the state of our minds/sub-concious. (This is just a slight theory of auras. Albeit, I can't even prove the emitted light spectrum is that of electromagnetic force.) The problem is that of skin and heat, it has been proved that a continuous spectrum of light can be altered due to a gas emission, now wouldn't the heated sweat be classed as a gas which could interfere with the spectrum? So how could auras be read effectively? As of this moment I am purely able to visualise the auric phenomenon but I don't find them as mysterious as many should claim. I wasn't always capable of seeing auras, I have learned to do so. Don't get me wrong though, don't come to the assumption that all I see is bright lights floating around humanoid bodies, this is totally not the case. I have to re-tune my eyes into another frequency, now how I do this I can't really explain but I could give you the method in which works for me. Do you, the reader remember them 3D puzzle games? In which you have to gaze and not stare to reveal the hidden image. Well the technique I use is exactly the same, I move my eyes around until I see the aura, re-focusing them and gazing at the person I wish to see the auric field of. That is all I do; there's no magic involved and in the future I'm pretty sure it will have been proved. Another option, using the aforementioned technique, is to find a room in your home consisting of a low-light, and preferably white wallpaper, and gaze above your forehead(do not stare, it will not work, gaze!), just keep gazing until you start to see a blue light(first layer) around your forehead, which will expand into another colour(which is your main colour). Once you see this, close your eyes, and you will see your auric field there, it's really strange at first, I was amazed. I was in a totally open-skeptical mood before I tried it. Well, I have more to my theory but I really don't want to elaborate on this further as I'll probably receive alot of skeptical feedback(which doesn't necessarily bother me, as I understand a subject like this would attract it). But yes, if you've already understood this and would like to reply to it, or have tried the prementioned technique and have actually had success, please reply i'd be interested in knowing I'm not superhuman(joke). This has not been proof read. Thanks for reading anyway, hx10. |
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| Yes, well, just one question. How do you know that what you saw is your aura and not your eyes playing tricks on you? |
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| Well, I can do it whenever I wanted, so that's alot of tricks my eyes can do; Also the colour varies from person to person. When I close my eyes, I can see whatever I was gazing there; just like you look at a light bulb and you still see it when you close your eyes. Here is a badly drawn picture, due to the fact I'm using a laptop touchpad, but basically when you close your eyes after gazing you seen the light around the shape of your arm & hands, or whatever you were gazing at. |
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| http://thiaoouba.com/aura_eye_exercise.htm you could maybe try this, and once you get the aura coming off the object, try looking at your hand and doing the same thing. I read that site back when I was trying to learn to do it myself, when I didn't beleive any of it. | ||||||
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| Er, it looks like all you're doing is inducing afterimages voluntarily. And I don't see why you're so convinced it's an aura. Clearly a simpler explanation is that you're screwing around with your eyes, and all the action is in your head. | ||||||
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| I just tried it out. Those are afterimages all right. | ||||||
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| Then why is it different colours? What is an after image? Why have I managed to do it in the dark? | ||||||
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| Afterimages are different colours too. You mentioned them earlier - that part about staring at a light bulb. It's interesting that you can do it in the dark, though. Tell me, when you do it in the dark, do you see one colour more often than others? |
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| Actually, whilst you do it in the dark, you can't generally make out the colours, just a white.. It's really hard to explain, erm but another thing is when you do it in the dark, everything around you blacks out totally, it almost feels as if you're going blind, but then it all comes back again, with the aura being visible. It's real creepy in the dark, I wouldn't advise it to anyone. | ||||||
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| Well I was able to maintain the cross it asked to maintain within 2 minutes of the excersize, but I did not see any colors that were not red or blue, and I dont see any colors that dont exist in my hand when I do it to that, any suggestions? | ||||||
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| stop looking at the periodic table for the food. ------------------------------------------ aNyways , do you think the men whom sign up to be the strongest man on earth have super human strength.. besides the usages of supplements. |
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| @Hx10 have you seen that optical illusion where you stare at this weird formation of colors, then it shows you a picture of a castle and it looks like the picture is color, but once the afterimage of the previous color fades you can see the image is black and white. Even though the first images colors dont match up with the colors you see in the second image. I dont know how this works, but i've seen this work and it was nothing but an optical illusion. What we have here is a case of willing suspension of disbelief, I've said it before and i'm saying it again. see my first post t see the stuff about willing suspension of dielief. I'm not saying there aren't auras because an electromagnetic field makes sense, but it seems like you're just making yourself see these. This is what i propose. Find a door way to a room. Have a person stand on the other side of the door either to the left or right of the door way at the edge, but so that non of the person is actually showing. If you're right, then you should see his aura portruding from which ever side that person is standing on and be able to say which side the person is standing on. Just in case that made no sense, another way of doing it would be if you had two large boards, about 6-7 feet tall and 2-3 feet wide and have someone stand behind one of them. IF you really can see the aura, then you should be able to tell which board the person is standing behind because you'd see their aura. |
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| well everything, all matter is energy if you go small enough, like strings in M-theory. And in the law of attracion, energy can be used to attract other energys like it. So if you think of somebody hurting in you mind, your brains energy can attract th eenergy of the person hurting, So I think it is possible |
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| there's no such thing as "the energy of someone hurting." There's heat, light, kinetic, electromagnetic, potential, strong force, weak force, and possibly gravity. Any pain felt isnt a specific energy its just a signal being sent from the area experiencing pain to the brain. Any pain you make someone feel with this method would probably just be sympathy pains because you've told the person what you're trying to do. | ||||||
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| Your brain waves are energy, thats what i mean by energy of hurting some one. And your naming forces and charactristics of, only some energies. Also electromagnetic + light are the samething. And possibly gravity? |
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| Well, RyeGye no I haven't see that optical illusion. But honestly what after images are there in a dark room? What after images are there around your skin which changes colour? It's obvious I can't prove it at all, if I knew how I would. Think about light for a minute, light is a propagating oscillatory disturbance in the electromagnetic field, now so if an aura is an electromagentic field, it can't be too hard to see.. | ||||||
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| @Jakeslec There's a possibility that if the universe is a hypersphere that gravity is just caused by inertia of upper dimensional centrifigal force, but thats a different discussion @Hx10 What about the experiment I outlined? (I know it might be my fault, cause i might have explained it wrong, i just want to know why you don't think it will work) |
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| RyeGye, the part which wouldn't work is asking someone to stand behind a door frame, so I couldn't see them. If you are willing to come to my house I'll do it for you lol.. | ||||||
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| you don't know anyone that would be willing to do that at all? no siblings or anything? | ||||||
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| Nope, only my grandad and uncle here.. they aren't the type to do things like that..you know | ||||||
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| what about neighbors, or (i don't know how old you are so this might not apply) schoolmates or something? If not, does it work with animals? cause then you could use pets. | ||||||
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| You really don't know how anti-social I am. But ok.. neighbours..out of the question, it does work on pets... but trying to get a dog to hide behind a door frame is rather difficult. *sigh* I don't really feel the need to prove I see auras.. ya'll should forget I said anything lol.. | ||||||
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| all right, all right..... but two last comments 1, if it is visible by your eyes, then there should be a way to make it visible to a camera as well. (like IR cameras or Heat sensing cameras) 2, keep me posted if you get a friend, cause i'd be interested in seeing how it goes. |
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